(Reviews) The Flash 1x16, Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x17, Arrow 3x17

[bradygirl_12]

The Flash 1x16



“It’s a bird…it’s a plane…!”

Ha, they really went there! Just like Mark Hamill’s “I am your father!” Tee hee.

I absolutely adored Cisco and Ray together. Talk about soulmates! ;) And Felicity’s remark about dating Barry in Oliver’s body gave me a chuckle.

I do find it sad that Ray is going to get his heart broken if it isn’t already. His expression while Felicity was saying goodbye to their friends certainly shows he knows what’s going on.

Okay, I’m going to go on a rant here: ordinarily I’m on the woman’s side when a man says something like, “Can’t we just have a nice dinner?”, implying that she’s too ‘emotional’ or some such irritating nonsense, but this time Eddie was right and Iris was wrong. I’m probably a minority of one, but she was rude. She just had to keep after Eddie when all he wanted was a few hours’ respite from their constant fighting. Instead of dropping it and going after Eddie later, she flounced off and ruined the dinner that Ray had taken a lot of trouble to set up for Felicity’s friends and the people he was meeting for the first time. I guess politeness is too old-fashioned these days. Iris was selfish. She wanted answers and wanted them NOW and to hell with any social niceties!

And then, the daughter of a cop doesn’t realize there are some things that Eddie might not want to discuss? Barry’s conversation with her was a complete bust. If she’s going to be the wife of a cop, she’s going to have to get used to her husband not wanting to bring the job home. And, yes, I know that he’s keeping the Flash secret from her, but honesty isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. I don’t know if I would want to know everything my friends thought of me! :) A little fibbing is a social necessity! As for the big secret that Eddie’s keeping, well, either he agrees with Joe that it’s better for Iris not to know or he’ll have to drop-kick his relationship with his future father-in-law and tell her himself. Otherwise he might lose her.

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x17

Nice little reveal with the bizarre family dinner having been already ‘seen’ by Rayna. So that’s her gift? Though why she needed to be transformed into Quill Woman is a puzzler.

So Melinda May used to be chatty and had a happy marriage until Bahrain? Interesting. Sad to say, with the Red Room program of HYDRA, she might come up against other dangerous children in the future.

The S.H.I.E.L.D. people are really foolish, going after each other instead of HYDRA. Talk about turf wars!

Arrow 3x17

Boy, if Ollie wasn’t considered the Bruce clone before, his attitude toward Ray with all the rolling eyes and other impatient gestures surely would convince people. Comics Ollie would enjoy his cheerful approach to the superhero game.

Poor Roy. It was a shock to see him killed, then I remembered, comics! So he’s alive, but can’t stay in Star City anymore. So now we have a show with no Green Arrow or Arsenal? I’d like to see how they get out of this one!

Maybe Roy can travel to Gotham and hook up with a certain bird. ;)

Now Thea’s dead? I saw by the previews that they’re going to use the Lazarus Pit. Will they do so even knowing that people who undergo that process often come out changed, even insane? This should be interesting!

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Comments

[crooked-halo.livejournal.com]

You are not the only one regarding Iris. She was completely rude during the dinner and she was horrible to Eddie in this episode. Barry's explanation was perfectly reasonable as to why he wouldn't want to talk about it and for her to demand that he tell her or she walks was over the top. Especially that she not only threw that hissy fit at dinner, but she went out of her way to go to his place of employment to give him that ultimatum and essentially break things off was just completely inappropriate. And I don't mind women who stand up for themselves (I like them a lot) but they've had Iris act like a spoiled child who has no regard for anyone but herself and no sense of the right time and place for certain conversations, and that just grates on me.

I'm likely going to stop watching Arrow now that they've written Roy off. Roy's gone, Laurel will continue to take a backseat to the Olicity drama. I was excited this season because we were getting closer to seeing the Arrow family, but now Roy's gone and Oliver is continuing to be an ass to Laurel whenever he gets the chance.

Sorry I just totally ranted all over your comment section.

[bradygirl_12]

*laughs*

Ranting perfectly OK! I am very disappointed in Roy leaving the show. He's always been a favorite of mine in comics or in the show. Maybe he can travel to Gotham and hook up with a certain bird. ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that Iris is being selfish. Usually in a situation like the dinner, a man has an irritating habit of making a woman sound 'emotional', but she was in the wrong in this case. If I was Eddie, I wouldn't be happy with being presented with an ultimatum. That suggests that Iris would pull the same stuff in the future after they were married.

[crooked-halo.livejournal.com]

Thank you for letting me rant :) And perhaps Roy will find his way to Gotham in offscreenville. Or perhaps we'll get some guest appearances and because of that, they'll actually tell some good Roy stories instead of having him just there, because the character has taken a backseat far too often over the past few seasons.

Ultimatums are never a healthy thing in a relationship. A healthy relationship would involve both people talking about the issue in an appropriate time and place and each person explaining why it's important to them (ie, Eddie explaining why it's important to not talk about things, and Iris explaining why she feels so strongly that he HAS to talk to her about everything) and through that, both people try to understand the other person and where they're coming from and both people try to find a compromise.

It's also unfortunate that the only reason she knows to be angry is because it's tearing Eddie up that he can't talk to her, whereas Barry and Joe seem to have no such issue with lying to her about something so big.

[bradygirl_12]

I agree about poor Roy just stuck in the background most of the time. He needs more luv! :)

Ultimatums kill a relationship.

I find it interesting, too, that Joe and Barry seem to be okay with keeping this big secret from Iris while Eddie is giving her unconscious signals that he's stressed out about it.

She's also being unfair to Eddie by letting her feelings linger for Barry. If Eddie noticed (and he did at that bowling alley disaster date), then how would she like it if he demanded to know what was going on with her and Barry? And it'll sound like I'm picking on Iris, but is she being fair to Barry's girlfriend by pulling that bowling alley stunt? Both she and Eddie were very uncomfortable while Barry and Iris talked about their good times at the alley and basically just kind of ignored their dates.

I really think it's a CW thing. They cater to the twentysomething demographic and at that age, things are very black-and-white. The issue of honesty seems to be a huge deal, not only in the latest shows but in Smallville as well. Sometimes it's not cut-and-dried about honesty. Superheroes have secret identities for a reason.

For instance, I've read a lot of people blaming Clark for not telling Lex his secret back before Lex went dark on the show. First off, it's his secret, not Lex's, and Lex kept pushing. Clark knew that he could end up a lab rat if the wrong people found out and his parents could have disappeared. Who would have found that odd in Smallville?

I always maintain both men were at fault for their rift: Lex for pushing and snooping and Clark being still pretty immature at the time. He could have told Lex, but what guarantee would he have that Lionel would not have found out, or Lex gone dark like he did? He was essentially scared, which is understandable. Lex might have become his greatest protector, or the knowledge might have worse than Kryptonite in Lex's hands. Clark doesn't have a crystal ball!

The same applies to these newer shows. Sometimes people keep secrets for good reasons, and badgering them about it is not going to make everything all right.

[jlvsclrk.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Iris managed to make Lana look reasonable. Well, not quite, but that's hyperbole was made for.

As for Arrow, that's what comes of not having a solid bad guy. They never really set up Ras properly, and of course Merlin has been a complete loss this season. And now they're paring down the Arrow clan?

[bradygirl_12]

Horrors! Worse than Lana? :)

Ra's will always be a Batman nemesis to me. The problem with Arrow is that they chose to be a Batman wannabe, ironic since Ollie has been always stuck with that moniker from the Golden Age onward (Arrow Cave, Arrow Car, Arrow Signal, ward as sidekick, rich guy who lost his parents, etc.). If they had made Ollie a person more in tune with his comics persona (at least pre-Reboot), they would have had a flawed hero who messed up but owned his mistakes and had a good sense of humor to boot. This brooding, self-flagellating mope is pure Bruce, not Ollie.

Getting rid of Roy is not a good thing. And killing Thea to subject her to the Lazarus Pit? She's going to become the Arrow Clan's version of Jason Todd. >:(